Agree, but taking players not considered good enough by other Championship clubs or using us as an opportunity to regain fitness, feels very much like scraping around in the bottom of a barrel
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Do you believe Hughton can put together a top 6 side?
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Agree, but taking players not considered good enough by other Championship clubs or using us as an opportunity to regain fitness, feels very much like scraping around in the bottom of a barrel
dejavuatbtn
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With a deadline of the first week in September for Premier Clubs to announce their squads, waiting for their "spares" is a dangerous exercise and I really hope we get a decent squad together based around Kayal during the summer.
mona
The Glory Game
This season's problems pre-date Hughton and Hyypia anyway.
Hughton has made one fee-paid signing so far - Kayal - who has been excellent.
It's a bit early to make a judgment isn't it. See where we are in October.
Hughton has made one fee-paid signing so far - Kayal - who has been excellent.
It's a bit early to make a judgment isn't it. See where we are in October.
GT49er
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Agree if waiting around for spares is all we do. However, if one of those spares turns out to be called Texeira, then I'm all in favour!
Del Fenner
Because of Boxing Day
Of course he can. Not sure that it will happen in one season though.
Jim Van Winkle
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Yes, CH can do it but only if given a adequate budget with no one telling him who his should and shouldn't buy. If I was him I would want complete autonomy over transfer dealings or I would walk.
GreersElbow
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Nothing, you're contradicting their complaint about Hughton and your point doesn't fit with their agenda.
pensionseagull
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Well that's not going to happen - the former not the latter.
Learn from this lousy season and move on - sooner rather than later
Barham's tash
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Based on the retained list and clearly the amount of wonga we're now going to free up from wages - i'm guesstimating on approx. £40k per week including loans that won't come back - this has left CH the amount he thinks he needs in the budget for us to become competitive.
Jim Van Winkle
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You are right given the current set up it's not going to happen. However, to get the best out of CH this has to happen or we will have another season like this one.
Also, as another poster has said it may take two seasons given the state of the current squad. Our L1 winning side was stronger than this squad especially going forward.
I did vote yes being a ever Albion optimist.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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If Hughton's signing of Kayal is indicative of the potential targets he has tucked away in his notebook, then I'd be inclined to give him both the time and the money to prove himself. Not renewing CMS's contract is a massive plus point. Giving a contract to Leon f*cking Best, on the other hand, would be a massive minus point. Interesting times.
BensGrandad
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The one thing he has got to do as many have said is play 2 up front be it 3-5-2 or-5-3-2 or even old fashioned but effeective 4-4-2 to stand any chance of success and winning the fans over.
lizard
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- Jul 14, 2005
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I think he is capable of building a top six side given the financial support, so answered yes. However doubt he'll get this support.
Under the constraints of a pretty dire starting squad and my prediction of little further investment this summer, in turn hampered by the fact that we aren't the same attractive club we were a couple of years ago to potential players. I think we will end up with a few freebie journey men, a couple of past it ex-internationals that just want an easy payday and a random selection of premier cast offs in the form of loans.
Please Tony, prove me wrong!
The way forward may well be our youth set-up, I just hope we can maintain our Championship status while we wait for a dozen little Messi's to emerge.
Under the constraints of a pretty dire starting squad and my prediction of little further investment this summer, in turn hampered by the fact that we aren't the same attractive club we were a couple of years ago to potential players. I think we will end up with a few freebie journey men, a couple of past it ex-internationals that just want an easy payday and a random selection of premier cast offs in the form of loans.
Please Tony, prove me wrong!
The way forward may well be our youth set-up, I just hope we can maintain our Championship status while we wait for a dozen little Messi's to emerge.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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Never going to happen. It'll be too little, too late, too cheap. We can't even retain our best senior players, what chance with the emerging youth team players? Gone are the Withdean days when we HAD to chuck on half the youth team and hope for the best. Rarely worked then, would never work now. Mainly because we'd now flog 'em on to the first or second bidder.
paul pring
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club have to back him though
I think this is a good question.
People point to his promotion successes with Newcastle and Birmingham, but Newcastle were a Premier league team who had been relegated. His Newcastle team had Andy Carrol, Joey Barton, Kevin Nolan, Peter Loverkrands, Coloccini, Marlon Harewood, Guittierez, (all signed before he became caretaker)
At Birmingham, he again had a side just relegated from the Premier League (and league cup winners), a side that included Andros Townsend, Zigic, Chris Wood, Cameron Jerome, and Marlon King. His list of signings don't look too notable to me.
Clearly he can do a job when he has a good squad. He can get them playing exciting football, and get them promoted back to the division they were in the season before he took over.
He took over a premier league Norwich, and that appears to be where he started to get a reputation as negative. But weren't there mitigating circumstances? They were Norwich in the premier league. They needed to survive and their best chances were not playing expansive attacking football as their team isn't good enough to challenge, and because the man Hughton brought in to score goals, wasn't scoring any.
Is that a sign that he isn't necessarily good enough to build a squad but can get a great one working? Is it just that he can't pick a goal scorer? Were there other influences that prevented him singing a proper goal scorer at norwich? Would they have played more entertaining football if they had a scorer?
Does it mean that it isn't just a case of whether or not the board back him in the summer?
People point to his promotion successes with Newcastle and Birmingham, but Newcastle were a Premier league team who had been relegated. His Newcastle team had Andy Carrol, Joey Barton, Kevin Nolan, Peter Loverkrands, Coloccini, Marlon Harewood, Guittierez, (all signed before he became caretaker)
At Birmingham, he again had a side just relegated from the Premier League (and league cup winners), a side that included Andros Townsend, Zigic, Chris Wood, Cameron Jerome, and Marlon King. His list of signings don't look too notable to me.
Clearly he can do a job when he has a good squad. He can get them playing exciting football, and get them promoted back to the division they were in the season before he took over.
He took over a premier league Norwich, and that appears to be where he started to get a reputation as negative. But weren't there mitigating circumstances? They were Norwich in the premier league. They needed to survive and their best chances were not playing expansive attacking football as their team isn't good enough to challenge, and because the man Hughton brought in to score goals, wasn't scoring any.
Is that a sign that he isn't necessarily good enough to build a squad but can get a great one working? Is it just that he can't pick a goal scorer? Were there other influences that prevented him singing a proper goal scorer at norwich? Would they have played more entertaining football if they had a scorer?
Does it mean that it isn't just a case of whether or not the board back him in the summer?
The last three managers have been given the backing, but it all depends on the quality of their judgement. Get it right and we sign Ulloa for £2 million, and he scores 22 goals in 50 matches, get it wrong and we sign Baldock for £2 million and he scores 3 in a season.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Plus side there is no BERK involved now in the signings but he will have to stop being a DULLARD on the pitch or he will be gone before Christmas
GT49er
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But that Newcastle team was absolutely sh*t when he took over. They were one of the sh*ttest teams in the PL and were deservedly relegated.
There were some good players in the team, but it wasn't functioning as a team; also it had previously been managed by a top ex-footballer who turned out to be not a very good manager. Sounds familiar?