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Ernest

Stupid IDIOT
Nov 8, 2003
42,739
LOONEY BIN
A massive pledge to help young families - great to see from the party of the working family:

The big announcement of the Conservative manifesto is a promise of 30 hours a week of free childcare for three- and four-year-olds. The Conservatives are doubling the existing provision, saving parents £5,000 a year.

Great stuff indeed, did he mention how it will be costed ?
 




simmo

Well-known member
Feb 8, 2008
2,786
So tory party manifesto includes promise for a free vote in government time in allowing returning of hunting.

I suppose after killing off elderly, poor and disabled it's only natural they turn to animals next

I remember based on a previous government lie (Saddam having WMD's) 179 British servicemen died and undoubtedly (tens) thousands of Iraqi civilians did as well.

So I can remember Labour "killing off" our servicemen and Iraqi civilians, but I just don't remember the euthanasia legislation that the Tories put through to kill off the elderly, the poor and disabled?
 


Bozza

You can change this
Helpful Moderator
Jul 4, 2003
55,834
Back in Sussex
Kapow:

The Conservatives are pledging to go "one step further" on income tax by legislating their change. The basic tax-free allowance will be automatically uprated so that no-one earning the minimum wage will pay income tax.
 


ROSM

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Dec 26, 2005
6,246
Just far enough away from LDC
A massive pledge to help young families - great to see from the party of the working family:

The big announcement of the Conservative manifesto is a promise of 30 hours a week of free childcare for three- and four-year-olds. The Conservatives are doubling the existing provision, saving parents £5,000 a year.

Labour manifesto had 25 hours offered. So I'm willing to forego the extra 5 hours and vote for a party that delivers the best for all society not just me personally
 


ROSM

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Dec 26, 2005
6,246
Just far enough away from LDC
I remember based on a previous government lie (Saddam having WMD's) 179 British servicemen died and undoubtedly (tens) thousands of Iraqi civilians did as well.

So I can remember Labour "killing off" our servicemen and Iraqi civilians, but I just don't remember the euthanasia legislation that the Tories put through to kill off the elderly, the poor and disabled?

Bedroom tax, damage to nhs, welfare reforms....shall I go on?
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,790
The Fatherland
Kapow:

The Conservatives are pledging to go "one step further" on income tax by legislating their change. The basic tax-free allowance will be automatically uprated so that no-one earning the minimum wage will pay income tax.

Is that because they're also on zero-hours contracts?
 


Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
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Back in Sussex
I assume I'm not the only one standing applauding and cheering.

My lunchtime run today is going to see an extra spring in my step. Wonderful stuff.
 






Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
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Back in Sussex
Labour manifesto had 25 hours offered. So I'm willing to forego the extra 5 hours and vote for a party that delivers the best for all society not just me personally

My family won't benefit from 1 hour a week let alone 30, but it will undoubtedly be a great help to young families. Bravo.
 


ROSM

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Dec 26, 2005
6,246
Just far enough away from LDC
I assume I'm not the only one standing applauding and cheering.

My lunchtime run today is going to see an extra spring in my step. Wonderful stuff.

I'm sure you're not... There are others like you out there. Whether there are enough to see Dave win a conservative majority for the first time in 23 years remains to be seen
 


spring hall convert

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Nov 3, 2009
9,608
Brighton
Kapow:

The Conservatives are pledging to go "one step further" on income tax by legislating their change. The basic tax-free allowance will be automatically uprated so that no-one earning the minimum wage will pay income tax.

Yup, extremely gracious of them to cut the tax of the people whose essential public services they are pillaging. Cheers Dave.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,790
The Fatherland
I assume I'm not the only one standing applauding and cheering.

My lunchtime run today is going to see an extra spring in my step. Wonderful stuff.

You've been bought, and bought rather cheaply, Bozza.
 




Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
29,836
Hove
A massive pledge to help young families - great to see from the party of the working family:

The big announcement of the Conservative manifesto is a promise of 30 hours a week of free childcare for three- and four-year-olds. The Conservatives are doubling the existing provision, saving parents £5,000 a year.

5 hours more than Labour have promised, I wonder if they edited theirs overnight?
 




ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
6,246
Just far enough away from LDC
Kapow:

The Conservatives are pledging to go "one step further" on income tax by legislating their change. The basic tax-free allowance will be automatically uprated so that no-one earning the minimum wage will pay income tax.

Do government willing to hand over a significant part of their budgetary control to the low pay commission. Very interesting

Of course the vat rises will soon offset that. You see these poor people just can't help buying goods and services
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,790
The Fatherland


Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
59,790
The Fatherland
Do government willing to hand over a significant part of their budgetary control to the low pay commission. Very interesting

Of course the vat rises will soon offset that. You see these poor people just can't help buying goods and services

No point worrying. Clegg has just stated he won't work with a party prepared to make 12bn further in welfare cuts, the SNP have stated quite clearly they will do whatever it takes to get Cameron out. You do the sums.....while I go and buy my champagne.
 


simmo

Well-known member
Feb 8, 2008
2,786
Bedroom tax, damage to nhs, welfare reforms....shall I go on?

Yes please can you please show me where the Tories euthanasia bill is as you stated the Tories are killing the old disabled etc.

The ones that you list above please tell me how these directly kill people? Like the action of going to war based on a lie does.
 




spring hall convert

Well-known member
Nov 3, 2009
9,608
Brighton
Fair play Nick.

'It's a measure of how much the Conservatives have run out of new ideas that the big idea on the day they publish their manifesto is a poor cover version of one of Margaret Thatcher's 1980s' hits.'

– Nick Clegg
 


ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
6,246
Just far enough away from LDC
And the childcare one. When labour announced a while ago the 25 hour policy, the tory treasury rebuttal said it would cost 800m gbp. They've in their own manifesto costed 30 hours as 700m gbp

How so?

They were lying then or they're lying now.

As for funding the inheritance tax and childcare promises by the pension tax relief plans which are due to bring in 1.4bn. So if inheritance tax is 1bn and childcare is as low as they claim, there is still a gap in their sums
 


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