General Election 2015

[Don Quixote]

In what way will Labour personally improve your life if they get back in?

I am not thinking about myself necessarily. They are closer to my personal political beliefs than any other party. I could say what will the Conservatives do for you personally if they get in, or UKIP or whoever, but I don't think we should think only about ourselves, which is probably why I lean to the left.

 

[Surf's Up]

I'd like to see Burnham take over as PM when Ed steps down. He'll make a good leader I think.

Assuming you aren't being "ironic", he'll need to get his act together a bit better on the evidence of his performance this morning

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

In what way will Labour personally improve your life if they get back in?

Some people vote for the greater good and not their own pocket. They will not improve my life one bit, but they will certainly improve the lives of the most needy in society who are currently being totally savaged by the Tories. This is why I'm voting Labour.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

DonQ and HerrT thanks for your replies. Make sense what you say on that part. However I don't think the most needy in society will get anything different under Labour I really don't. They will just carry on where the Tories left off, in my opinion.

 

[Nibble]

Can't wait for Labour to take back power. The UK is ****ed financially and has been for years. Labour won't solve that but what they will do is redistribute some of the wealth to the most vulnerable in society. The damage the Tories have done will take some time to sort but at least the people will have a voice again. The Tories are absolute scum who have spent 5 years siphoning off funds from the welfare state to line their own pockets. Filth, the lot of them. Utter, utter thieving scum.

 

[Nibble]

DonQ and HerrT thanks for your replies. Make sense what you say on that part. However I don't think the most needy in society will get anything different under Labour I really don't. They will just carry on where the Tories left off, in my opinion.

Labour will re-instate the welfare system that the Tories have decimated.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

DonQ and HerrT thanks for your replies. Make sense what you say on that part. However I don't think the most needy in society will get anything different under Labour I really don't. They will just carry on where the Tories left off, in my opinion.

I fully appreciate they ain't perfect but I feel they're the best bet for the fairer society I want.

 

[melias shoes]

Thought of a nasty coalition I think I will top myself

Yeah,the thought of a labour/SNP union frightens the life out of me too.

 

[Soulman]

Yeah,the thought of a labour/SNP union frightens the life out of me too.

The worst possible outcome.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Can't wait for Labour to take back power. The UK is ****ed financially and has been for years. Labour won't solve that but what they will do is redistribute some of the wealth to the most vulnerable in society. The damage the Tories have done will take some time to sort but at least the people will have a voice again. The Tories are absolute scum who have spent 5 years siphoning off funds from the welfare state to line their own pockets. Filth, the lot of them. Utter, utter thieving scum.

I remember my dad being made redundant under a Labour government. When he finally got to claim benefits, he got the bare minimum because he worked hard and saved his money, yet there where people sitting on their backsides earning more than people who went out to work, and it's still sodding going on today isn't it. That to me is not a fair society. That's the trouble with Labour they give all the money to the wrong people.

 

[Hastings gull]

Can't wait for Labour to take back power. The UK is ****ed financially and has been for years. Labour won't solve that but what they will do is redistribute some of the wealth to the most vulnerable in society. The damage the Tories have done will take some time to sort but at least the people will have a voice again. The Tories are absolute scum who have spent 5 years siphoning off funds from the welfare state to line their own pockets. Filth, the lot of them. Utter, utter thieving scum.[/QUOTE
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The people have a voice now -you have just proved it by saying that you can't wait for Labour to take back power! I would be interested in how exactly they have siphoned off funds to line their own pockets. Could you elaborate, please? How many millions will vote Tory -are they all filth? Are they all thieving scum?

 

[Vegas Seagull]

Every 10 year age band from 25 has more people voting Tory & less Labour than the previous one. Older and wiser
If you vote Labour you're just young or ignorant or condescendingly both.

 

[maltaseagull]

Left or Right Red or Blue what most people who have really strong beliefs forget is that the majority of voters decide on what is best for them personally and not for society.

None of the main parties deserve 5 years in charge.

 

[crookie]

I remember my dad being made redundant under a Labour government. When he finally got to claim benefits, he got the bare minimum because he worked hard and saved his money, yet there where people sitting on their backsides earning more than people who went out to work, and it's still sodding going on today isn't it. That to me is not a fair society. That's the trouble with Labour they give all the money to the wrong people.

Most Tory voters I would think are not rabidly anti-welfare state, they would like the benefits the taxes paid through their hard work goes to the most in need and the most deserving. I'm sure it does in most cases, but everyone can see around them plenty of instances where, on the surface at least, some seem to have a nice easy life on the back of their efforts.

Again most Tory voters are not stinking rich either, plenty in the upper-tax bracket I'm sure, but mostly what they themselves would consider middle-class, not rich. They are also sensible enough to understand, that if taxes go up, they will shoulder most of the burden. The rich can always employ complex tax-avoidance/evasion measures and move assets/money around. Those on PAYE don't have that option. Their fear is that a Labour Government will lead to increased taxes for them, and nobody wants to pay more.

In my opinion, with the size of the deficit, tax rises for everyone and spending cuts across the board are inevitable if we are to balance the books. It would be a brave politician who raises his head above the parapet and speaks this unpalatable truth and as it's not exactly a vote-winner, sadly no-one will be honest enough to state it.

 

[Nibble]

You can't tax a country out of debt.

Labour will landslide to victory . Absolutely no doubt in my mind.

 

[beorhthelm]

Like your "load of bollocks" argument?

im not the one asking to be voted into power. load of bollocks is accurate assessment of the claim, there is no policy in place or planned that would return the NHS to the 1930s. its an extension of a economical argument that there are planned spending will be 35% of GDP, the same spending as in the early 00's and ignoring the massive difference in GDP since the 1930 (up about 3x per capita). its not even accurate, as the 1930's spending was lower than 35% .

you dont really take this 1930 soundbite claim seriously do you? are you not concerned that this is currently the basis of a election campaign, politics of fear?

 

[beorhthelm]

You can't tax a country out of debt.

Labour will landslide to victory . Absolutely no doubt in my mind.

true, but methinks you're getting your parties mixed: Labour wants to tax out of debt, Conservatives want to cut out of debt.

 

[Nibble]

UKIP would turn the country into a 1930's theme park but they will be a memory by the end of this year.
Tories will have the poor starving and living in slums while they refuse to build housing for the sole purpose of inflating the price of their own property portfolios and create a Morlock underclass.
Labour will lie and cheat but people will be better off and they will give dignity back to the people.
Vote labour.

 

[Hastings gull]

Most Tory voters I would think are not rabidly anti-welfare state, they would like the benefits the taxes paid through their hard work goes to the most in need and the most deserving. I'm sure it does in most cases, but everyone can see around them plenty of instances where, on the surface at least, some seem to have a nice easy life on the back of their efforts.

Again most Tory voters are not stinking rich either, plenty in the upper-tax bracket I'm sure, but mostly what they themselves would consider middle-class, not rich. They are also sensible enough to understand, that if taxes go up, they will shoulder most of the burden. The rich can always employ complex tax-avoidance/evasion measures and move assets/money around. Those on PAYE don't have that option. Their fear is that a Labour Government will lead to increased taxes for them, and nobody wants to pay more.

In my opinion, with the size of the deficit, tax rises for everyone and spending cuts across the board are inevitable if we are to balance the books. It would be a brave politician who raises his head above the parapet and speaks this unpalatable truth and as it's not exactly a vote-winner, sadly no-one will be honest enough to state it.

A very good post in my humble opinion, which tries to avoid the usual sweeping statements about one's political adversaries. We hear endlessly about the few/ruling elite etc but it is easy to forget that the majority of Tory supporters come from what is Middle England and are not Eton toffs. By the same token, then you would have to say that the majority of folk supporting Labour are similarly decent hard-working people, who are not Champagne Socialists.

 

[Nibble]

true, but methinks you're getting your parties mixed: Labour wants to tax out of debt, Conservatives want to cut out of debt.

True.