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Tricky Dicky

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Jul 27, 2004
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Sunny Shoreham
Ok, I've called him a plank often enough so a bit of detail.

He may be a good coach, enough people who know what they're talking about and know what he's done at Spurs below the first team, have spoken very highly of him in this respect. That alone does not make him a good manager. Fans might like his forthright opinions in post-match interviews, but players won't - or at least many won't, so he is very likely to lose his dressing room quickly unless he curbs his tendencies. He may talk about bringing youth through, but as we all know, chances to do that and keep your job are limited. Does he have good tactical nous ? We have no idea.

Would I have backed him, had he got the job - yes. Would I have liked him to succeed - yes. Do I think he would have succeeded ? No, not really. Do I still think he's a plank ? Well, yes.
 


Seasider78

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Nov 14, 2004
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His odd behaviour and outbursts were largely towards the end of his Spurs tenure where despite having a better win percentage than the previous managers he was overlooked. I think a lot of that was to do with his perception he had been unfairly overlooked which I can understand

I think his problem is he wants a top premier league job off the back of his Spurs record but as the recent southampton, west brom, palace appointments have shown he is still considered a gamble at that level. In my opinion he would benefit from cutting his teeth in the championship but I suspect he has not yet lowered his expectations and demands sufficiently to be a viable option.
 




Tricky Dicky

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His odd behaviour and outbursts were largely towards the end of his Spurs tenure where despite having a better win percentage than the previous managers he was overlooked. I think a lot of that was to do with his perception he had been unfairly overlooked which I can understand

I know what you mean but I fear he'd be equally outspoken after any defeat, he seems to be unable to hide his feelings for long. Not necessarily good for a manager.
 




GoingUp

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Aug 14, 2011
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Sussex By The Sea
And his support team would cost a fair amount too I would guess. He seems to have priced himself out of a job.

He needs to lower his expectations, find a League 1/Championship side and prove he can do the job. Work his way up, like most managers have had to.

Yeah mate, agreed there. He seems like abit like a spoilt brat imo
 


portlock seagull

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Jul 28, 2003
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Tim who? Thread closed (Mods?)
 


Hampster Gull

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Dec 22, 2010
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Why the obsession with sherwood? He hasn't achieved diddley squat as a manager but somehow has a really high profile for any top job that comes up. Gillingham more suited for him i think
 




Arrid

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Jul 26, 2004
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I would have taken Sherwood over Hughton at any stage of a season

Based on what exactly, you fancy him, nice hair? There is no football reasoning! And certainly no soccer ball reasoning based on BHAFC's current plight.
 


Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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Why the obsession with sherwood? He hasn't achieved diddley squat as a manager but somehow has a really high profile for any top job that comes up. Gillingham more suited for him i think
He's got a high profile as he was on the telly box a lot with tottingham, and he had a good career as a player, but I'm not sure he's been offered any jobs, which is the important bit.
 


dingodan

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Feb 16, 2011
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Sherwoods stats as Spurs interim manager are actually quite good.....So why did they out him?
I don't know him, or much about him, but it does seem odd that he appears to be unemployable. Does this vid explain what goes on in his head, and something of his unusual criticism of the team. Maybe they thought he would unsettle the players?

http://youtu.be/PKb1J9xHtZQ

I can't help it. I like him.
 




B.W.

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Jul 5, 2003
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I would have taken Sherwood over Hughton at any stage of a season

Why? Too much of a gamble IMHO and, it seems, my opinion matches a few club chairmen.
 


Oct 25, 2003
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he does seem to be of the opinion that he could walk into any prem job. however, there will always be more experienced managers going for those jobs- he should hone his skills lower down. if he does that I think he could have a good career
 


Baggie192

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May 26, 2014
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I read both him and Pulis are very head strong, outspoken and neither will take any crap. As an employing chairman I guess you'd be willing to entertain those qualities in Pulis as his record stands up and he's earned that level of trust/respect. Whereas Sherwood is still an unproven manager with limited track record and hasn't earned that right yet. Sherwood would be better off going for a lower placed club with good fundamentals.

Poyet was a number 2 at a big club in Leeds and also Spurs and yet his desire to manage didnt stop him coming to a struggling league 1 club playing at an athletics track..... Poyet has earned the right to get his premier job having succeeded with us. I dont think Sherwood has earned that right yet and he's aiming way to high.

If he gets a top job, it will be in the summer when time/points is not such a precious issue, he wont get one now from a struggling prem club in the sacking season, with not much time and not enough points to gamble on a rookie

Basically this. He did have a good run at spurs, But he was making the same demands in interviews at West Brom That Pulis was. Now Pulis has 23 years experience as a manager proven track record of keeping Stoke up and made Palace only the second team to pull off "The Great Escape". He is worth £2 million a year. Sherwood has yet to prove it. He needs to lower expections drop the huge demands manage in the Championship then go for a Prem job

Edit Apologies lovechild only just saw your post
 




Brovion

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Jul 6, 2003
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After three 'left field' appointments perhaps he'd be one too many. He may well turn out to be a great manager, on the other hand he may turn out to be utterly useless. He's only had that little stint at Spurs which wasn't a roaring success, and all you can say about him at the moment is that he proved to be an ever-so-slightly better manager than Alan Shearer. Like it or not (and some don't) in our current situation he'd be far too much of a gamble.
 




Bold Seagull

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Mar 18, 2010
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Hove
With Hughton in charge at the Amex, Pulis at The Hawthorns, and a distinct lack of interest from St James's Park, what does this tell us about how Chairmen / Club Owners feel about Sherwood?

Sherwood didn't want this job pure and simple. Not sure he is holding out for a top role somewhere. Might be more to do with his own mind / aspirations than what Chairman feel about him.
 


Hugo Rune

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Feb 23, 2012
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Would be a good fit for Leeds. :)

I hope Poyet gets a chance to manage Leeds (sooner rather than later). He always waxed lyrical about the club when in charge of us. A string of poor performance from the Makems could see him axed by Easter. Leeds seek a manager get every 4 months so there would probably be a vacancy. Seeing his little botty on the Leeds Utd managers' merry-go-round would give me an alarming sense of satisfaction. Or Reading.
 






Brighton Mod

Its All Too Beautiful
I have no knowledge but suspect he is being offered at too high a rate or wants too much. Of his criticism of players, whilst I understand that certain issues need to be kept confidential if they are not delivering consistently and we can all see it, then its fine. Todays players live in a bubble of self adulation and belief that on many occasions doesn't warrant their remuneration.
 


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