Why call the police

[geodavies]

I have recently retired from the police after 25 yrs service. The police hate burglars and I can promise you that officers are just as frustrated when a convicted burglar receives a lenient sentence (especially a known repeat offender). What should be made clear is that the police gather the evidence, the Crown Prosecution Service decide whether to charge based on that evidence and the courts then determine the sentence if a conviction is achieved. The police deal with the victims face to face and so quite understandably are often the brunt of victims frustrations. The impact of a burglary upon a victim is massive and should never be under estimated. I speak as a victim of a domestic burglary myself and I know the impact it had on me and my family and that was whilst as a serving officer. The police could and should do more to communicate clearly with victims on a personal level - there is always room for improvement in this area, however, on the whole the police do a good job under very difficult circumstances. I always tried my best and put the victims first as did the vast majority of my colleagues.

What I will say is that I found the evidence that achieved a conviction after the forensics had left.....also I had the impression they were going through the motions. ..

 

[edna krabappel]

Im in the process of moving at the moment and as I know that he lives nearby I'll wait until I move and then reveal name and I think his profession

Presumably if he received a conditional discharge, he was found guilty in court, and thus his name is a matter for public record anyway, unless he's a juvenile.

 

[Weststander]

I was mugged at knife-point about 12 years ago and they forced me to reveal my PIN. The police took my clothes away for evidence. Bank refunded the money, cops never gave my clothes back. Who really mugged me? Scrotes never got caught.

Friend of mine had her car jumped on and damaged outside the police station. There was CCTV from the nightclub. Pigs said it would take too long to go through, even though my friend could give them a two hour window. Sussex Police are a waste of time and money.

I had my car accessed by scum outside my Brighton home 3 or 4 times in recent years. Other cars in the road were gone through too.

Found the Police were great. Tried to take prints, collected dvd's taken from a neighbour's excellent cctv, and later sealed a conviction. Kept me informed when the lowlife (who came from an estate on the Lewes Road, 5 miles away) pleaded guilty in the face of overwhelming evidence and was sent to prison. Must have had previous convictions.

It's always worth notifying the Police of all crimes like this, even if nothing stolen, as the Police build a profile of locations, days of the week and they know most suspects ... they piece it all together and covertly catch the lowlife.

 

[BBassic]

Parents had a break in a few years ago. Despite the police officer who came around immediately saying they knew who had done it, and returning the stolen items, there was "not enough evidence" to convict said person.

That said it is an issue wi the current law/ ability to convict and not the police, who were fantastic. I am sure they are more than frustrated that these people do not get locked away.

What's this? A sensible, well reasoned reading of the trouble the police have convicting scumbags? On the internet? What an age we live in.

 

[HawkTheSeagull]

This isnt due to the police, its down to the useless justice system. The police have done their job by finding the burglar, arresting and then charging him.

Similarly, I was burgled a few years ago and they even found the ****s DNA in my house, the bellend also thought sending threatening messages would help him too. The police easily picked him up a few times and was arrested 3 times for separate things to do with what they had done, chasing after him a few times too, turns out they also had a long criminal record already.

The courts somehow found the **** not guilty despite the clear evidence he had been in my house. The officers involved were pretty furious and couldnt understand the decision too. Its one of those open and shut cases which the courts clearly are too inept to deal with.

 

[Triggaaar]

True story. ....got burgled twice in the same week by the same scrote, the police found my stuff in his flat and he gets a conditional discharge. ...

My wife gets that, and it's not pleasant. He'll think twice before burgling again.

 

[SIMMO SAYS]

My wife gets that, and it's not pleasant. He'll think twice before burgling again.

Triggaaar you normally talk sense but --- does your wife live with you and why would the burglar think twice if he's been LET OFF

 

[Luke93]

Do they have branches of McDonalds' in Crown courtrooms now then?

Haven't you been to Worthing?

 

[knocky1]

True story. ....got burgled twice in the same week by the same scrote, the police found my stuff in his flat and he gets a conditional discharge. ...

probably stopped him coming back a third time...

 

[edna krabappel]

Haven't you been to Worthing?

Didn't even know Worthing had a Crown court, so, no.

 

[portlock seagull]

True story. ....got burgled twice in the same week by the same scrote, the police found my stuff in his flat and he gets a conditional discharge. ...

Burgle his house then and "nick" it back / become a Daily Mail pin up! You'd be a cause celeb in no time at all - just stand outside the court when obviously you get a heavier sentence and say I had no choice the law is an arse. It was the only way to get my property back! Do it, we'll all come and visit you!

 

[tomfitz12]

My wife gets that, and it's not pleasant. He'll think twice before burgling again.

I feel this is a good time to bring this up. im not sure if your signature is trying to be ironic but the way in which you misspelt paedos really annoys me. apologies if sounds rude but things like this really tick me off

 

[SussexHoop]

My experiences are mixed. I know of someone whose garage was broken into and his rather expensive bike and some very decent wine was stolen. His neighbour's CCTV provided very clear pictures of the culprit but the CID officer that turned up a few days later was clearly not interested.

I'm the key holder for my brother and was called late one night when his alarm went off. 2 police cars there before me, a 3rd turned up with a dog shortly after, CID an hour or so later and SOCO the next morning. He has a monitored alarm system and having seen that response I do now as well.

 

[Triggaaar]

I feel this is a good time to bring this up. im not sure if your signature is trying to be ironic but the way in which you misspelt paedos really annoys me. apologies if sounds rude but things like this really tick me off

What's 'im'?

PS, no apology necessary

 

[Igzilla]

I had my car accessed by scum outside my Brighton home 3 or 4 times in recent years. Other cars in the road were gone through too.

Found the Police were great. Tried to take prints, collected dvd's taken from a neighbour's excellent cctv, and later sealed a conviction. Kept me informed when the lowlife (who came from an estate on the Lewes Road, 5 miles away) pleaded guilty in the face of overwhelming evidence and was sent to prison. Must have had previous convictions.

It's always worth notifying the Police of all crimes like this, even if nothing stolen, as the Police build a profile of locations, days of the week and they know most suspects ... they piece it all together and covertly catch the lowlife.

Perhaps the Brighton division are more driven than the shower we have in Worthing?

 

[SIMMO SAYS]

Wrong Direction and I will visit you in clink and I will bring the spade that we used to bury the so n so so you can escape
To many so n so's I think.

 

[fat old seagull]

Im in the process of moving at the moment and as I know that he lives nearby I'll wait until I move and then reveal name and I think his profession

Just his name....

We know his profession ....feckin burglar !
I saw a tv programme recently which stated burglars very often go back to a previous victim again. So if you get hit, better be prepared for another. I would be inclined to set up a painful trap, other than my memories so shit I'd probably be my own victim

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

Thieving is a heinous crime, perpetrated by inadequates who will never comprehend the hurt and disgust their actions cause.

 

[tigertim68]

They don't go to jail because the jails are full

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27836961[/

no you will go to jail in this country if you call someone a name , its a bigger crime in this country now

 

[happypig]

The courts somehow found the **** not guilty despite the clear evidence he had been in my house. The officers involved were pretty furious and couldnt understand the decision too. Its one of those open and shut cases which the courts clearly are too inept to deal with.

For any conviction in any court, the prosecution (ie the CPS or an agent) has to prove guilt BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT. If they fail to do this then the court, whether three magistrates, a district judge or a jury will find the accused not guilty.
I really feel for burglary victims (my mum and mother-in-law both had irreplaceable stuff stolen in break-ins) but unfortunately sometimes things go wrong; it may be that the police are not doing a thorough job because there's something more pressing and they just don't have the manpower at the time, it may be the CPS mislay evidence or don't get the files done in time (they've been decimated by cuts like most of the civil service), it may be that witnesses don't turn up.
However, to the OP, I'm surprised that someone found guilty of Burglary of a dwelling (I presume it was a dwelling) gets a CD, that's way down the scale, the starting point for a level 3 offence (the lowest) being a high level community order.