Officials- What a joke.

[Phat Baz 68]

Not heard much about our disallowed goal. Looked like we had messed it up, but it ended up in the back of the net and from where I was sitting didn't look off side.

It wasnt offside cant understand how they came to that conclusion with two reading players stood on the line before it went in

 

[dazzer6666]

You Sir briref are an extremely condescending individual with your posts,and if you think that because you are a ref then that gives you carte blanche to rubbish any other opinion and you have to be right then I would be very concerned if you officiated any match I played in or watched .I admit you may be right on a fair few issues but not on all ,so it may be advisable to not talk about fans and fellow posters as if they are some kind of simple fools with no knowledge of the game just because you don a black strip and whistle.

Don't knock him, he can run a 12 minute 12.6km.

 

[BobbySmith]

It was actually, watched the highlights in the bar and whoever received the ball to cross was offside, pure and simple

 

[The Wizard]

The worst offside call was the one in the first half where Caskey played Lopez in behind down the right, that Lino was a total TOOL from the start, comically awarding us the throw when the ball came directly off Bruno. Referee looked like he'd been threatened into giving the second yellow. Another funny one was in the first half our player appearing to be fouled and he gave the foul to them.

I don't like to blame the officials, but I really didn't see reading scoring today against 11 men and to see a referee be bullied into sending a player off is shocking, the standard of officials this season has been exceptionally poor, anyone who says it hasn't is delusional.

 

[BN9 BHA]

most sensible post of 2014?

 

[BN9 BHA]

I played football for over 20 years at a good level , i have been watching football for over 40 years so i also know a bit about the game , i dont drink before the game either , with all this training you do its a shame you know nothing about the game . if you think Greers sending off did not affect the result you are wrong .
the ref was weak , he got a lot wrong , like most refs you never thihk your are wrong !

It's the inconsistency of the decisions that I don't get, a booking is given for a foul by Greer then a similar challenge by an opponent is unpunished, the linesmen seem to miss things that happen I front of them.

 

[Paddy B]

One of those offsides was an absolute joke - it was a brilliant pass too. The lino must have been the only person in the stadium who thought it was offside.

Apart from those of us dead in line with it who could see Lopez (I assume that was the one you were talking about) was just offside.

Also there was uproar in WSL when the linesman flagged for an offside against Lingard in the first half quite late but even that in my opinion was perfectly correct. He was a long way from the ball when it was played (but still offside) and so the linesman had no reason to flag but as he chased the ball he looked close to getting it which was why the flag was so late.

 

[BN9 BHA]

well i am.
believe it or not there is a clue in the username.

i look at the game from a referee's point of view, without going to a game as a bhafc supporter expecting every decision to go to my chosen team.

it is a bloody hard job, i have been doing it 13 years and is a thankless task.

today, he got the big decisions correct and did not affect the result of the game.

if you are looking for a scapegoat try our captain, but we cant criticise our own.

contact me, i will point you in the direction of a course.

you too like me can train 5 days a week
do 4 games a week
travel to rye for £30 on a Tuesday night
attend 6 meeting a month
pass yearly fitness test, 12600 meters in 12 minutes
mentor schemes and assessments

it would give you far more of an idea about refereeing and change your opinion about football

I would say i am a fair better judge on a referee's performance, than your regular supporter who watches 90 minutes - 23 times a season after a few beers in my belly

You make refereeing sound like a chore, you don't have to do it, you must have a proper job as well if you travel to Rye for £30.
Being a part time ref doesn't make you an expert.

 

[HawkTheSeagull]

Replay just shown on the FL Show - Greer's first challenge was a yellow card, cannot have any arguments about that.

However, the 2nd yellow was massively wrong and only deserved a final warning as it would have never even been a yellow card had Greer not already been booked.

Spot on with March's corner though, some referees would have let that go - good call.

 

[Sheebo]

However his first yellow was a straight red.

Utter bollocks! How was that a clear goal scoring opportunity that far out then (with covering defender). I assume u think their one in the first half was a red too then ( on Lopez I think right in the edge of box)

 

[Sheebo]

Either way if people can't see that the ref single handedly cost us a 3 point swing on out play off rivals they re daft. Stupidity from inept officials and cheating players has cost us.

 

[pb21]

The linesman was 2nd class if that.

 

[JBenno]

disagree

easy to blame the officials.

i blame our skipper.
what a stupid challenge to make on the 55th minute when already cautioned.
He knew what he had done, he knew he was walking that's why he got away from the scene asap.

6 minutes added on?
6 subs, 1 goal = 3.5min
id say you could easily find 2.5 minutes from injures, time wasting and the length of time it took for the red to happen.

big decision correct,
little fouls, pushes etc are always open to interpretation and he had more than his fair share to judge today. both teams didn't help.

offside's looked good to me, its amazing to know how many people still do not know if you are in an offside position, balls played forward and you step back in to your own half to receive the ball, its offside - eg ulloa


and what do we think about solly's corner, why did the ref give a free kick - it never went out of play
hmmmmmmmmmmmm useless &&&&

in the laws of the game, which obviously a lot of people know well, you are not allowed to play the ball twice from a corner, or throw in.
or its an indirect free kick

but everyone knew that

You are exactly why everyone hates referees!
Condescending and ignorant.

The point is, that the Referee was clearly influenced by then Reading players and staff to produce that second yellow card. Where is that in your little rule book?
He made poor and weak decisions throughout (for both teams) and the Reading players sensed that could get at him.... And it worked!
Consistency and standard of reffing at this level is generally poor, look at the daft penalty we were awarded last week.
Yet you will stick together won't you? And whatever happens, you would never be transparent enough to come out and explain your decisions after the games god forbid!

I don't expect you will answer this post.... Referees never do....

 

[Phat Baz 68]

Just seen Gordon Greers second yellow , definetely NOT a yellow as he stepped across to go for the ball should NOT have been sent off ! Utter shite. Free kick possibly yellow NOOOOOOOO

 

[BN9 BHA]

Such a good post. How the referee can be blamed for this result is a joke. You could argue that Greer's challenge was more careless than reckless, but why give him that decision to make? I blame Greer the unnecessary challenge.

There was one decision from the linesman who I was bang in line with when Lopez received the ball which I felt the assistant got wrong, but apart from that, can't complain about anything. Like you say, the game was officiated in accordance with the laws of the game, laws of the game which so many of our fans are unaware of.

Wannabe ref.

 

[Seagull1989]

Never been so infuriated with officials since Burnley game a couple of years ago! Among his wrong decisions was the one when a reading player went through ours (lingaard or ince I think) on the edge of box and Reading got the free kick

 

[Firingblanks1]

It's getting embarrassing, every week people in the west stand upper and on here blame the officials when we draw or lose. They moan about time waisting, players diving etc. Let's be honest we are no different? Take off your BHA tinted specs, Greer deserved to go, the game was a good scrap and in the end we deserved the draw - the ref did pretty well too given the circumstances. I wonder sometimes how many posters on here have actually played football at any level, given their interpretation of the rules at times is way off the mark. Bring on Tuesday, it's not all over yet!

 

[Seagull1989]

disagree

easy to blame the officials.

i blame our skipper.
what a stupid challenge to make on the 55th minute when already cautioned.
He knew what he had done, he knew he was walking that's why he got away from the scene asap.

6 minutes added on?
6 subs, 1 goal = 3.5min
id say you could easily find 2.5 minutes from injures, time wasting and the length of time it took for the red to happen.

big decision correct,
little fouls, pushes etc are always open to interpretation and he had more than his fair share to judge today. both teams didn't help.

offside's looked good to me, its amazing to know how many people still do not know if you are in an offside position, balls played forward and you step back in to your own half to receive the ball, its offside - eg ulloa


and what do we think about solly's corner, why did the ref give a free kick - it never went out of play
hmmmmmmmmmmmm useless &&&&

in the laws of the game, which obviously a lot of people know well, you are not allowed to play the ball twice from a corner, or throw in.
or its an indirect free kick

but everyone knew that

The ref was incompetent ! Don't agree with your reasoning for 6 mins added time. We have seen many games this year at amex where time wasting has been a lot worst than that abd only had 4 mins added on .

I am aware why the ref gave the offence against solly but he did let him take 4 touches first before giving free kick. Which infuriated people! He was probably told in his ear piece by his assistants at the opposite side of the ground

 

[One Love]

Utter bollocks! How was that a clear goal scoring opportunity that far out then (with covering defender). I assume u think their one in the first half was a red too then ( on Lopez I think right in the edge of box)

Err, he was just about to race away from Greer and Upson to have a one-on-one with the keeper. How is that not a goal-scoring opportunity? Greer knew what he was doing with a professional foul but the ref gave him the benefit of the doubt.

So there's only one person to blame with the blatant body check to get him sent off.

I do think their one in the first half was a red too, strictly by the laws of the game but at least the ref was consistent. Unfortunately the Reading player wasn't stupid enough to commit another bookable offence.

If you want to see some ridiculous ref decisions look at Match of the Day. Fonte's booking against Palace, the Chelsea penalty and sending off for example.

 

[briref]

i have tried to offer a referee's view point and explain his decisions.
the main talking points about the ref center around
*red card
*6 minutes stoppage time
*solly's corner

the referee got them spot on.

unfortunately the fella cant defend himself which he would love to do, because of the powers to be.

i believe the ref was always producing the 2nd yellow, if greer stated near the scene the yellow and red would of been flashed quickly.
it makes it difficult when he leaves the scene quickly, it is natural reaction for any team to put there point across.
once he got reading players away he could do what he always intended to do.

i defo do not think he had the best game, i am not bowing down to him and attempting to lick his arse.
i think there were a lot of little pulls, tucks, trips he did not give.
though with already 21 free kicks in the game, if he gave everything he would of been blasted whistle happy.

it was a difficult game to referee, with 2 teams needing the points and one i, webb or collina would not have done better.


my point from the start is we can not blame the guy for losing 2 points today, we should be looking at other areas.