Chrystal Palace And The Poisoned Chalice Of Doom

[nwgull]

QPR and Reading seem to be doing well this year and have retained most of their squad's from last year.

I don't know much about Reading, but QPR are doing this by overspending by about 30-40m.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Sorry I fail to see where this wasted 50 million figure has come from?? Palace spent about 12 million on new players, and would have to pay players whoever they maybe, so every club in all leagues must lose loads if they look at the wages 1 or 2 seasons ahead!!

Last season Palace posted 3 million loss and BHA 8 Million loss....so with the 10+ million for Zaha and the 63 million from promotion the extra 8 -10K on crowds and the bigger sponsorship money and all that goes with the Premershite league.

To say BHA are better not to have gone up is just mad...even if Palace are getting a thrashing every week, for a team who by their fans on admission were a mid table Championship side and ( probably still are ) to be fighting with the big boys is a (monetary) dream come true.

Sky had the transfer fees paid out at the end of the window as £17.5M , transfermarkt.co.uk has a higher figure of £18.5M. Include the additional payouts incurred when signing free transfers (signing on fee and agent fee) and the sum has to be around £19M - £20M. That is before wages are taken into consideration which not only includes the players but all employees at the club. You haven't made a clear £10M profit from selling Winnie last season because this will be offset against losses for the 2012/2013 season so you'll only be about £5M - £7M better off.

 

[loz]

Sky had the transfer fees paid out at the end of the window as £17.5M , transfermarkt.co.uk has a higher figure of £18.5M. Include the additional payouts incurred when signing free transfers (signing on fee and agent fee) and the sum has to be around £19M - £20M. That is before wages are taken into consideration which not only includes the players but all employees at the club. You haven't made a clear £10M profit from selling Winnie last season because this will be offset against losses for the 2012/2013 season so you'll only be about £5M - £7M better off.

If I take all you say as true. That works out to be 30 million spent then? The wages point should not really be taken into acount as every one pays those and Palace have put all but 2 players on 1 year contracts.

One thing I would say on the money front is, BHA fans spend too much of their time looking and pointing fingers up the A23, when really if it wasnt for a sugar daddy pumping £120 million and stumping up for a anual loss of £8 million...you would be uo shxt creek.

But thats a point laboured endlesly on here before.

No I dont like getting beaten every week, but if we can put some of the money aside a bit like WBA did, we should be able to come back stronger.

Again, any fan of any team that says they would rather not get promoted it either silly or a lier TBH!! Thats the point of sport!!!

 

[Kuipers Supporters Club]

Holloway gone?!

 

[Se20]

Sky had the transfer fees paid out at the end of the window as £17.5M , transfermarkt.co.uk has a higher figure of £18.5M. Include the additional payouts incurred when signing free transfers (signing on fee and agent fee) and the sum has to be around £19M - £20M. That is before wages are taken into consideration which not only includes the players but all employees at the club. You haven't made a clear £10M profit from selling Winnie last season because this will be offset against losses for the 2012/2013 season so you'll only be about £5M - £7M better off.

Thanks for all your research Soggy, but I'd rather listen to our MD Phil Alexander.
I think his finger is more on the pulse

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

If I take all you say as true. That works out to be 30 million spent then? The wages point should not really be taken into acount as every one pays those and Palace have put all but 2 players on 1 year contracts.

One thing I would say on the money front is, BHA fans spend too much of their time looking and pointing fingers up the A23, when really if it wasnt for a sugar daddy pumping £120 million and stumping up for a anual loss of £8 million...you would be uo shxt creek.

But thats a point laboured endlesly on here before.

No I dont like getting beaten every week, but if we can put some of the money aside a bit like WBA did, we should be able to come back stronger.

Again, any fan of any team that says they would rather not get promoted it either silly or a lier TBH!! Thats the point of sport!!!

Tony Bloom's investment will be around £200M now he has paid out for the stadium , the new training academy at Lancing , plus the 4* hotel , multi storey car park and student accommodation blocks.

 

[loz]

Tony Bloom's investment will be around £200M now he has paid out for the stadium , the new training academy at Lancing , plus the 4* hotel , multi storey car park and student accommodation blocks.

This is good and the best of luck to you.

But:

Why do some of you spend all your time slagging, Cardiff, Forest, Reading etc for being bank rolled when BHA are doing the exact same

 

[hans kraay fan club]

This is good and the best of luck to you.

But:

Why do some of you spend all your time slagging, Cardiff, Forest, Reading etc for being bank rolled when BHA are doing the exact same

Because it isn't remotely the same. This is all capital investment in infrastructure, not playing budget.

 

[Se20]

Because it isn't remotely the same. This is all capital investment in infrastructure, not playing budget.

Well it was up to when FFP kicked in.

 

[loz]

Because it isn't remotely the same. This is all capital investment in infrastructure, not playing budget.

I think saying its not remotly the same is a bit of a mute point. As if he had not spent £120 Million on Falmer, BHA would not have been able to pay the players they have now. It is very closly related IMO...but then I might see it a slightly different way??

 

[Basil Fawlty]

Ok Mystic Meg, what's your prediction for you this season ?

I've been saying we will struggle throughout the whole summer and I generally still believe we will. But for your lot, if you can't see yourself being a Rabbit caught in the headlights then you really are a deluded individual.

Enjoy.

 

[Leighgull]

I think saying its not remotly the same is a bit of a mute point. As if he had not spent £120 Million on Falmer, BHA would not have been able to pay the players they have now. It is very closly related IMO...but then I might see it a slightly different way??

Pedant alert..it's a moot point not a mute point. There is, clearly, a good reason for this if you think about it.

Oh...and **** off Palace scum.

 

[sparkie]

If I take all you say as true. That works out to be 30 million spent then? The wages point should not really be taken into acount as every one pays those and Palace have put all but 2 players on 1 year contracts.

One thing I would say on the money front is, BHA fans spend too much of their time looking and pointing fingers up the A23, when really if it wasnt for a sugar daddy pumping £120 million and stumping up for a anual loss of £8 million...you would be uo shxt creek.

But thats a point laboured endlesly on here before.

No I dont like getting beaten every week, but if we can put some of the money aside a bit like WBA did, we should be able to come back stronger.

Again, any fan of any team that says they would rather not get promoted it either silly or a lier TBH!! Thats the point of sport!!!

Tony Bloom's £200 million investment, which of course we are grateful for, is the karma payback for Archer - the one who bought the club for 56 pounds and sold everything.

Without the bad, there may not have been the good. With the Goldstone still there, there may not have been the AMEX.


Back on topic - the next to drink from the Poison Chalice of Doom may well be Pulis.


I can't see anyone saving Palace this year, but in January...

Boot out the 2 loanees, replace them with loans for Zaha, and a really good midfielder...

Introduce Murray back into the squad ( surely Phillips will depart in Jan now Ollie has gone )...

And buy a very, very good ( and expensive ) central defender, and there is just a glimmer of hope.

 

[Dougie]

Tony Bloom's investment will be around £200M now he has paid out for the stadium , the new training academy at Lancing , plus the 4* hotel , multi storey car park and student accommodation blocks.

What a fan eh .

 

[TheMajor]

Pulis at Palace ?

First move from him would be to drag the touchlines in by 5 yards, then get rid of the fancy dans - that ponce Williams and the Spanish bloke, make a move for Huth, Shawcross & Crouch - he'd love the flailing elbows of Jedinakers. Get Wilbrahim back in the side and make sure the ball don't bounce.

Perfect match for Palace - however, their Nazi Ultras won't like it - they think they're Italian so Di Canio is their man. Whatever the decision it's welcome back to the Championship

 

[loz]

Pedant alert..it's a moot point not a mute point. There is, clearly, a good reason for this if you think about it.

Oh...and **** off Palace scum.

Was there really a need for that?

 

[5 Zero]

Pulis at Palace ?

First move from him would be to drag the touchlines in by 5 yards, then get rid of the fancy dans - that ponce Williams and the Spanish bloke, make a move for Huth, Shawcross & Crouch - he'd love the flailing elbows of Jedinakers. Get Wilbrahim back in the side and make sure the ball don't bounce.

Perfect match for Palace - however, their Nazi Ultras won't like it - they think they're Italian so Di Canio is their man. Whatever the decision it's welcome back to the Championship

If we are looking to go down that route we could make a move for Oscar Garcia? The weed season ticket holder at work says he loves a HOOF!

 

[Danny-Boy]

But at least we would of given it a go at staying up. Where Palarse seem to be a Rabbit caught in the headlights.

I don't think Palace have started that badly, losing 1-0 to a scrappy Spurs side who have gone on the muller other teams? Losing 2-0 to the Champions away after one dodgy refs call from a dive? Many of the other games have been close, not 9-0's which we had in 1989/90 - and stayed up easily.

Its been obvious that Ollie was not happy in the job, unlike Gus though he's had the decency to walk away from it. The worrying thing for many other clubs though is that both Holloway and Di Canio have been said to have "Lost the dressing-room". In Holloway's case it seems to be that he couldn't integrate his summer signings into what by the nature of campaign which got Palace promoted, was bound to be a closeknit dressingroom.

I've seen a number of Palace squads who have been promoted to the top Division in the past, it was ridiculous that some players who got them promoted were then frozen out the next season. Neil Shipperley was a good example in 2003/4, I dont think he played a game in the Premiership.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

I don't think Palace have started that badly.

Hahahahaha

Genius.

You have THREE points, from EIGHT matches, thanks to a single win against the rock bottom side, and even then only thanks to a red card.


Haven't started that badly! Priceless.

 

[TheMajor]

Hahahahaha

Genius.

You have THREE points, from EIGHT matches, thanks to a single win against the rock bottom side, and even then only thanks to a red card.


Haven't started that badly! Priceless.

He's got a point. They could have lost to Sunderland.

Nice to see Palace setting records - In Premier League history they now hold the record for earliest dismissal of a manager who got them promoted in the previous season. Buffoonery of the highest order.