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John Terry



Herr Tubthumper

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The Fatherland
Let's now hope Chelsea do the decent thing.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Different burden of proof... A court is "beyond reasonable doubt", a civil case (or the FA in this instance) is "on the balance of probabilities".

Agree. Anyone who has been following this case should know this by now. I do wonder about some people.
 






Nathan

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Jan 8, 2010
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Different burden of proof... A court is "beyond reasonable doubt", a civil case (or the FA in this instance) is "on the balance of probabilities".

Ah right. Think i missed the point earlier then.

So...JT is a racist in the eyes of the FA?
 






Simster

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Jul 7, 2003
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So so bored of this Terry shit now.

Why doesn't he just retire so that he can spend more time with your wife?
 


The Spanish

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disgrace of a man shouldnt be leading our country what an odious individual etc etc etc

as tabloid witch hunts go this is a f***ing belter. Still the FA have let the papers pick the team for donkeys years why not let them and their slavish public decide who is in or out the squad in a pantomime villain boo hiss style.

We have had women bashers who are still held up as heros as they score against the jocks, men who cheat on their wives with brasses who are apparently indispensible in our quest for world cup glory, showboaters who bash up poor sap provincial DJs with a mob of mates to back them up, but perhaps just perhaps say something a bit iffy and they are persona non grata. funny old country this.
 




Hotchilidog

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Just seen the footage, he clearly called Anton Ferdinand, "A f**king black c*nt". From the FA's perspective this is clearly unacceptable on-the-field behaviour and they are quite correct to find him guilty. Where the FA is open to criticism is in the differing penalties given to both Terry and Suarez for basically the same offence. JT should have been banned for 8 matches like Suarez, the fine is immaterial to him it's only a couple of weeks wages.

Long bans will in my view start to weed this sort of behaviour out of football, a few hundred grand here or there is nothing to these people.
 




The Spanish

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Just seen the footage, he clearly called Anton Ferdinand, "A f**king black c*nt". From the FA's perspective this is clearly unacceptable on-the-field behaviour and they are quite correct to find him guilty. Where the FA is open to criticism is in the differing penalties given to both Terry and Suarez for basically the same offence. JT should have been banned for 8 matches like Suarez, the fine is immaterial to him it's only a couple of weeks wages.

Long bans will in my view start to weed this sort of behaviour out of football, a few hundred grand here or there is nothing to these people.

really and really? this is tabloid football fan speak oh the money means nothing. same as an 80 quid parking fine means nothing to anyone i suppose. f*** being fined that sort of money no matter what i had, if it wasnt fair.
 




Questions

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This is all because he parked in that disabled bay isn't it ?
 


Brovion

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disgrace of a man shouldnt be leading our country what an odious individual etc etc etc

as tabloid witch hunts go this is a f***ing belter. Still the FA have let the papers pick the team for donkeys years why not let them and their slavish public decide who is in or out the squad in a pantomime villain boo hiss style.

We have had women bashers who are still held up as heros as they score against the jocks, men who cheat on their wives with brasses who are apparently indispensible in our quest for world cup glory, showboaters who bash up poor sap provincial DJs with a mob of mates to back them up, but perhaps just perhaps say something a bit iffy and they are persona non grata. funny old country this.
Tend to agree. I think it's a bit TOO much to say that John Terry is the victim in this case - the victim of an increasingly intolerant society that allows 'free speech' so long as that 'free speech' matches a nice narrow liberal, inoffensive, polite consensus.

As I say that's probably a bit excessive ...... but what the hell I'm going to say it anyway.
 


Albumen

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Jan 19, 2010
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FA Statement



An Independent Regulatory Commission has today [Thursday 27 September 2012] found a charge of misconduct against John Terry proven and has issued a suspension for a period of four matches and a fine of £220,000, pending appeal.

The Football Association charged Mr Terry on Friday 27 July 2012 with using abusive and/or insulting words and/or behaviour towards Queens Park Rangers’ Anton Ferdinand and which included a reference to colour and/or race contrary to FA Rule E3[2] in relation to the Queens Park Rangers FC versus Chelsea FC fixture at Loftus Road on 23 October 2011.

The charge was the result of The FA’s long-standing investigation into this matter, which was placed on hold at the request of the Crown Prosecution Service and Mr Terry’s representatives pending the outcome of the criminal trial.

A hearing took place from 24-27 September 2012 before an Independent Regulatory Commission of The FA to consider the charge.

The decision of the Independent Regulatory Commission is as follows:

Mr Terry be suspended from all domestic club football until such time as Chelsea’s First Team have completed four competitive matches
Fined the sum of £220,000

The Independent Regulatory Commission will provide written reasons for its decision in due course. Mr Terry has the right to appeal the decision of the Independent Regulatory Commission to an Appeal Board. An appeal must be lodged within 14 days from receipt of the written reasons for the decision.

The penalty is suspended until after the outcome of any appeal, or the time for appealing expires, or should Mr Terry decide not to appeal. The reason for this is to ensure that the penalty does not take effect before any appeal so that Mr Terry has an effective right of appeal.​

TheFA.com - Independent Regulatory Commission reach conclusion in John Terry case

At least he never got off I guess. The fact he denies it really should have come into it though. I'd have given him 3 months: 2 months ban and 1 month suspended sentence to make sure he cant go around mouthing racist comments on camera again. Poor old Mongo.
 




the wanderbus

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Dec 7, 2004
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So if calling someone a f***ing black **** is worth 4 games &£220000 can any players that substitute the word black with fat, ugly, skinny, scouse, bald or any other such nastiness expect the same?

I'm not defending terry IMO he should have banned for life just for being a vile scrote anyway
 
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Bullee

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Sep 25, 2012
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does the FA think they're above the law. Terry was found NOT GUILTY in a court of law, what right does the FA have to punish him???? all wrong!
 




bn1&bn3 Albion

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Jan 15, 2011
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Just seen the footage, he clearly called Anton Ferdinand, "A f**king black c*nt". From the FA's perspective this is clearly unacceptable on-the-field behaviour and they are quite correct to find him guilty. Where the FA is open to criticism is in the differing penalties given to both Terry and Suarez for basically the same offence. JT should have been banned for 8 matches like Suarez, the fine is immaterial to him it's only a couple of weeks wages.

Long bans will in my view start to weed this sort of behaviour out of football, a few hundred grand here or there is nothing to these people.

Suarez admitted to saying itbut said it was OK in his own country. Terry has said he was repeating what Anton said. Whether or not it's true they are two very different cases.
 




Sam-

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I have been lead to believe that in the eyes of the FA and racist language is unacceptable. Therefore, Terry admitting he said it, but claiming he was simply repeating it holds no water.
Im not sure why this is different to Suarez. 8 Game ban is far more damaging.
 


Hungry Joe

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Oct 22, 2004
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disgrace of a man shouldnt be leading our country what an odious individual etc etc etc

as tabloid witch hunts go this is a f***ing belter. Still the FA have let the papers pick the team for donkeys years why not let them and their slavish public decide who is in or out the squad in a pantomime villain boo hiss style.

We have had women bashers who are still held up as heros as they score against the jocks, men who cheat on their wives with brasses who are apparently indispensible in our quest for world cup glory, showboaters who bash up poor sap provincial DJs with a mob of mates to back them up, but perhaps just perhaps say something a bit iffy and they are persona non grata. funny old country this.

Spot f*****g *insert inflammatory word(s) here* on.
 


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