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Hove / Παρος
Apr 7, 2006
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Hove / Παρος
Not sure how many of you have followed this man's case. I've only just picked up on it. It basically seems that he is to be executed in an hour's time based on no hard evidence, but rather a series of eye witness accounts made over 20 years ago, that have since been rescinded. Seven of nine witnesses who testified during the original trial have recanted their story and have said that they were coerced by the police to implicate Davis in the murder.

Not that there's much time left, but you can sign a petition here: NAACP | Sign the petition to DA Larry Chisolm
 




Brightonfan1983

Tiny member
Jul 5, 2003
4,822
UK
Yep, done.

Unbelievable stuff like this is happening in America today. Think about it too much and you'll probably end up jacking your job in and applying to work for Amnesty.
 


peterward

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Nov 11, 2009
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I have followed this one, there is so much evidence that condradicts the original used to find the guilty veridct, it has to be one of the unsafest convictions of all time....... Wether you believe in capital punishment or not (and I don't) this particular case is deeply flawed and it would be outrageous to execute this man.
 


El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
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Jul 5, 2003
39,732
Pattknull med Haksprut
I have followed this one, there is so much evidence that condradicts the original used to find the guilty veridct, it has to be one of the unsafest convictions of all time....... Wether you believe in capital punishment or not (and I don't) this particular case is deeply flawed and it would be outrageous to execute this man.

with you 100%. It' s questionable whether this is worth a conviction, let alone a state murder.
 


ATFC Seagull

Aberystwyth Town FC
Jul 27, 2004
5,319
(North) Portslade
Don't execute Troy Davis - 1


Quick bounce this morning. Whilst things look bleak, bombarding emails can only help at this stage. As has been mentioned above, this is not about the death penalty. Whenever that debate has come up on NSC, even the most hardened of the "hang the bastards" brigade say they would only support it in 100% cases, which this is most clearly not.
 








Conkers

Well-known member
Jan 11, 2006
4,536
Haywards Heath
OP said he was to be executed in an hour.....surely signing petitions now is useless as presumably he is dead??
 






Tricky Dicky

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Jul 27, 2004
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Sunny Shoreham
I gather the US executes more people than China. I doubt that can be verified, as I don't expect China releases official figures, but just the fact that the two are comparible is a sad endictment of the US in this day and age. Clearly the threat of execution there makes no difference to the offending rate.
 


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May 9, 2008
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Haywards Heath
Clearly the threat of execution there makes no difference to the offending rate.
How can you measure the amount of people it HAS deterred ? There was a study which tried using the difference between states with and without the death penalty , but the differing socio economic conditions exposed the fact that it couldnt be done with any degree of certainty.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,342
Surrey
How can you measure the amount of people it HAS deterred ? There was a study which tried using the difference between states with and without the death penalty , but the differing socio economic conditions exposed the fact that it couldnt be done with any degree of certainty.
Fair enough, but the fact that this man is going to be executed by the state on what appears to be very flimsy evidence "drives a coach and horses" through the pro-hanging lobby's argument.

Let me guess, this man is black and not affluent enough to have a decent lawyer?
 


DTES

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
6,022
London
How can you measure the amount of people it HAS deterred ? There was a study which tried using the difference between states with and without the death penalty , but the differing socio economic conditions exposed the fact that it couldnt be done with any degree of certainty.

However, the burden of proof has to lie on those in favour of the death penalty, surely? If you cannot prove that it does act as a deterrent, you cannot use that as an argument in favour.

(Obviously 'you' doesn't mean you personally...)
 


Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
29,917
Hove
To kill a mocking bird.

Would Harper Lee have imagined 50 years after writing her novel, nothing much would have changed.
 






brightn'ove

cringe
Apr 12, 2011
9,138
London
The supreme court need to step in and place huge restrictions on the death penalty until it can be 100% proven that a defendant is guilty.

But that won't happen and this allegedly innocent man will die at the hands of Georgia's government.

It's cases like these when you realise that you are lucky to live in a country where not only is this forbidden, but the government is also anti-death penalty.
 


Bozza

You can change this
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Jul 4, 2003
55,939
Back in Sussex
He's unfortunate that this is happening on a night when the whole world will be talking about Brighton tonking Liverpool. He's not having much luck, is he?
 


To kill a mocking bird.

Would Harper Lee have imagined 50 years after writing her novel, nothing much would have changed.

Quite possibly one of the best books ever written, I believe she won a Pulitzer prize for it.

Are there similarities between the two? I must say I have never heard of this case.
 




Was not Was

Loitering with intent
Jul 31, 2003
1,593
Don't execute Troy Davis - 1


Quick bounce this morning. Whilst things look bleak, bombarding emails can only help at this stage. As has been mentioned above, this is not about the death penalty. Whenever that debate has come up on NSC, even the most hardened of the "hang the bastards" brigade say they would only support it in 100% cases, which this is most clearly not.

This is the Amnesty International site.

Done.

Bounce.
 


Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
29,917
Hove
Quite possibly one of the best books ever written, I believe she won a Pulitzer prize for it.

Are there similarities between the two? I must say I have never heard of this case.

I think if you read a summary of the case there are similarities. The conviction is based on circumstantial evidence and eye witness accounts, most of which have since turned out to be unreliable.

There is a great danger in the US model of elected police chiefs where the public judge the performance purely on statistics and results. If anyone watched The Wire, the series showed how dysfunctional the police force can become under the umbrella of politics.
 


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