[Brighton] Two Brighton & Hove Labour Cllrs Expelled!

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Goldstone1976

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Unfortunately unless @Herr Tubthumper provides us with a link to the FB account in question , to show that the account was a private account that did not name her as ‘Councilor‘ in the account name, or that led people to believe the comments made by her were related to her work as a councilor, it is covered by the CoC.

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It applies to all occasions where the activity under question has been carried out as a Councilor or led people to believe they were carried as a Councilor.

I don’t know why you find the legislation so difficult to understand - perhaps because you keep taking paragraphs out of context or just maybe you can’t accept you are wrong on this.🤷🏻‍♂️
There is, I would respectfully suggest, another interpretation of @Herr Tubthumper ’s posts on this matter.

But in order for you to see it, you may need to take a step back and reflect.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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I might add, that if I was clearer on what exactly you're proposing to complain about, I may well agree with you that it applies.
I'm not proposing to complain about anything. The question was raised regarding holding councillors to account; nothing neccesarily to do with @Steve Foster directly. I posted some general information, and then the discussion got bogged down in whether it applies to public and private life. This is all. :thumbsup:
 
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Herr Tubthumper

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Unfortunately unless @Herr Tubthumper provides us with a link to the FB account in question , to show that the account was a private account that did not name her as ‘Councilor‘ in the account name, or that led people to believe the comments made by her were related to her work as a councilor, it is covered by the CoC.
My interpretation of 'her own Facebook account' means personal and not the account of any role she may have. But, I see you point. This discussion has been interesting, but I think I'll leave it here for the foresseable.
 


e77

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I do see why people would prefer local politicians to be independent but a lot of the rate payer Councillors were really Conservative. Once one party is involved and offering money to campaign it would mean individuals having to raise their own money to get elected to contest them and that is before building a team to leaflet and door knock.

My guess is you would end up with a lot of the same Councillors anyway as there isn't an infinite amount of people who want to do it.
 


Sid and the Sharknados

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I'm not proposing to complain about anything. The question was raised regarding holding councillors to account; nothing neccesarily to do with @Steve Foster directly. I posted some general information, and then the discussion got bogged down in whether it applies to public and private life. This is all. :thumbsup:
Ah sound, sorry about that.
It's livened up the work call that I had to sit through but not contribute at all to at least.
 




Zeberdi

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Ah sound, sorry about that.
It's livened up the work call that I had to sit through but not contribute at all to at least.
Liven up my morning at work too plotting endless data onto QGIS 😴

All we need to do now is be alert to Mr Foster posting unsavoury comments on NSC because as I indicated in an earlier post, he is walking a very fine line as all his posts go out the way to highlight that he is in fact a Councillor - including posting his diary/schedule/comments about other Members etc - it would be very difficult for him to argue that his posts on NSC fall outside the jurisdiction of the CoC.

We are watching you ‘Steve’
 


Albion my Albion

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I don’t think that’s going to raise the level of debate somehow - there isn’t much more to say at the moment about an ‘investigation‘ that we don’t know any details about - and this thread has provided another great opportunity for NSCers to highlight the particular credentials that the local Tory Party must think make Ivan Lyons such a fine example of what the public want to see in a Tory Councillor . 🙂

My thoughts & prayers are with Chicken Run, too.
 








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Worth clarifying that they weren't kicked out for being racist were they?
Fair point - no, they weren't. The racist part was a flippant comment regards an NSC Tory councillor.
 






Kuipers Supporters Club

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Just come out:


They should resign immediately IMO. Taking their voters and the Brighton taxpayer for fools.
So what have they done then to justify such harsh action ?

Labour has now expelled two councillors in Brighton because they actually live in Leicester. Bharti Gajjar and Chandni Mistry, who are aunt and niece, have been kicked out after a 7-day internal investigation which proved they don’t live in Brighton at all – they’ve been commuting in occasionally from Leicester.

Giving civil servants a run for their money when it comes to working from home…

Local Labour officials have called for them to “do the right thing” and stand down. There’s been friction in local Labour associations in the South after regional officers took over selection processes because too many councillors had quit or were kicked out over antisemitism allegations.

Local members are saying HQ’s got their comeuppance…
 
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WATFORD zero

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Just come out:


They should resign immediately IMO. Taking their voters and the Brighton taxpayer for fools.


Labour has now expelled two councillors in Brighton because they actually live in Leicester. Bharti Gajjar and Chandni Mistry, who are aunt and niece, have been kicked out after a 7-day internal investigation which proved they don’t live in Brighton at all – they’ve been commuting in occasionally from Leicester.

Giving civil servants a run for their money when it comes to working from home…

Local Labour officials have called for them to “do the right thing” and stand down. There’s been friction in local Labour associations in the South after regional officers took over selection processes because too many councillors had quit or were kicked out over antisemitism allegations.

Local members are saying HQ’s got their comeuppance…

I'm really pleased, good riddance. It's about time we had a bit of honesty and integrity in politics at all levels.

I wonder if Brighton and Hove conservative party will do similar ???
 


timbha

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I'm really pleased, good riddance. It's about time we had a bit of honesty and integrity in politics at all levels.

I wonder if Brighton and Hove conservative party will do similar ???
Why just the Tory party? What about the Greens and further actions by the Labour Party, or indeed any party? Isn’t that what the Standards Comms are for?

Certainly agree with your first point.
 




jcdenton08

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Why just the Tory party? What about the Greens and further actions by the Labour Party, or indeed any party? Isn’t that what the Standards Comms are for?

Certainly agree with your first point.
I was going to say this, surely “ethics” are universal as a concept. Don’t care what party they are.

In this case, good riddance. That’s absolutely taking the piss.
 


WATFORD zero

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Why just the Tory party? What about the Greens and further actions by the Labour Party, or indeed any party? Isn’t that what the Standards Comms are for?

Certainly agree with your first point.

You're absolutely right, I allowed myself to get focused on a single anti-disabled islamophobe, and it should be the same regardless of party :thumbsup:
 


Kuipers Supporters Club

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The basic allowance for a councillor is approx £13,800.

These two have been councillors for six months and will have cost the taxpayer thousands already.

This is when I wish local government had a recall mechanism, because unless they resign, they will still get their allowance each month. All they have to do is turn up once every six months.
 






Chicken Run

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So the local Labour Party’s investigation has lead to them being kicked out of the Labour Party for not meeting the residency criteria, can someone explain to me why this wasn’t checked prior to the election last May ffs, or have ‘Central Office’ parachuted these charlatans in?? Interesting that the younger one is talking about the Pavilion Seat representation and hoping possible to be considered, was this promised maybe to her if she took a role initially on the council 🤔
 


timbha

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So the local Labour Party’s investigation has lead to them being kicked out of the Labour Party for not meeting the residency criteria, can someone explain to me why this wasn’t checked prior to the election last May ffs, or have ‘Central Office’ parachuted these charlatans in?? Interesting that the younger one is talking about the Pavilion Seat representation and hoping possible to be considered, was this promised maybe to her if she took a role initially on the council 🤔
So much for transparency 😀
 


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