[Football] Jadon Sancho

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There’s a reason he isn’t in the United team and it can’t be lack of ability.

 

[Super Steve Earle]

There’s a reason he isn’t in the United team and it can’t be lack of ability.

Didn't Ten Hag refer to him having to overcome mental health issues earlier in the year?

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

I was responding to a post where the author said "I don't want us spending 45m on anyone", "Lets keep being the team that develops 5m players and turn them into superstars". That was their point - not about the mundanity of salary amounts, but the morality of spending big.

I do think that it is simplistic to think that it is all about wages. Players developing a career want the international recognition that comes with player for their national side. That - in turn - usually depends on getting regular first-team football (I say usually, because Gareth Southgate bucks this trend by continuously picking players like Maguire and Phillips who have hardly started under their current club managers).

Someone like Jadon Sancho should put a value on first-team football, and that should come into the mix, otherwise he could be the next Jesse Lingard, benchwarming for Man Utd until his desire for another Ferrari exceeds his desire to play 90 minutes.

I think he does.

The reason he is earning 300k+ a week at man utd is because he set the bundesliga alight while he was at Dortmund. And he was at Dortmund because as a 17 year old he wanted to play first team football and Man City wouldn't give it to him. So he left, and moved to a new country to play.

I think what would stop him leaving Old Trafford is not just a desire to pick up a paycheck and to buy another Ferrari but that if he leaves it could look like failure. And elite sportsmen hate failure.

That said if he's not getting game time I think he would be very open to leaving. We're still not getting him though.

 

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Didn't Ten Hag refer to him having to overcome mental health issues earlier in the year?

Just looked him up - apparently so. Tough for youngsters to live up to their wages and hype. If they don’t want to give up on him, a loan might help him along.

 

[GT49er]

I was responding to a post where the author said "I don't want us spending 45m on anyone", "Lets keep being the team that develops 5m players and turn them into superstars". That was their point - not about the mundanity of salary amounts, but the morality of spending big.

I do think that it is simplistic to think that it is all about wages. Players developing a career want the international recognition that comes with player for their national side. That - in turn - usually depends on getting regular first-team football (I say usually, because Gareth Southgate bucks this trend by continuously picking players like Maguire and Phillips who have hardly started under their current club managers).

Someone like Jadon Sancho should put a value on first-team football, and that should come into the mix, otherwise he could be the next Jesse Lingard, benchwarming for Man Utd until his desire for another Ferrari exceeds his desire to play 90 minutes.

The point being that £5M players will happily fit ito our wage structure. £20K a week? - bite yer 'and orff, Guv'nor.

In your last para. the operative word is 'should' - yes, indeed he should, but he might well be happy to be the next Ferrari-owning Jesse Lingard (I'd take that in a heartbeat if offered!!)

 

[Carbonara]

Firstly, I can't see Sancho signing for the Albion anytime soon because of wages. But let's not pretend we don't want to see star players playing for the Albion. What would be the point of making £100 million profit on transfers season on season if - occasionally - we didn't splash the cash for the right player?

I would be very comfortable selling 3 or 4 players for a combined £170 mill and spending £110 mill on their replacements. That may be £45 mill on one, £35 on another and £15mill for a couple of promising youngsters. But if there is a window when the right young player is not available - and they don't grow on trees - then we might have to do something else.

Tielemans won Leicester an FA Cup. Paqueta plays in Bowen for the Europa Conference winner, Bruno Guimaraes and Joelinton were instrumental in helping Newcastle into a Champions League spot. All of these players bought for c. £40-odd million, all elevating their clubs to another level.

I use to moan alot as to why we were making so much money selling players and spending little of it.Then I think of how vulgar City, Chelsea etc are and I think great, we are doing it the old fashioned way.I;m not against one or two big spends but I don't want us to go crazy and especially for a dud like Sancho.

 

[Perfidious Albion]

I’d sooner have Solly on the right and Mitoma on the left , with Enciso in the locker, anyday

 

[schmunk]

I’d sooner have Solly on the right and Mitoma on the left , with Enciso in the locker, anyday

Those initiation ceremonies can get a bit out of hand...

 

[JBizzle]

There's a loose rumour from a notoriously weak transfer site that Villa are interested but won't pay the alleged £60m fee.

Honestly, unless they smash their wage structure to pieces no club outside the richest 10 or so in the world will want to a) pay £60m+ for him AND b) match his £350k p/w wages. He's stuck there unless he either takes a significant pay cut of United pay a proportion of his wages after he leaves.

One thing's for sure: He ain't coming here

 

[Psychobilly freakout]

Please do not shoot the messenger...

Ollie the local window cleaner in and around Lancing (short bloke, looks and smells like a tramp) said he knows a bloke in Worthing that is friends with the medical staff and the albion sent someone up to Manchester to give someone a medical yesterday

 

[schmunk]

Please do not shoot the messenger...

Ollie the local window cleaner in and around Lancing (short bloke, looks and smells like a tramp) said he knows a bloke in Worthing that is friends with the medical staff and the albion sent someone up to Manchester to give someone a medical yesterday

Gundogan - he's confirmed it himself with this tweet. Not sure why he's included that picture...?

 

[SeagullinExile]

Please do not shoot the messenger...

Ollie the local window cleaner in and around Lancing (short bloke, looks and smells like a tramp) said he knows a bloke in Worthing that is friends with the medical staff and the albion sent someone up to Manchester to give someone a medical yesterday

Harry Maguire?

 

[WhingForPresident]

Please do not shoot the messenger...

Ollie the local window cleaner in and around Lancing (short bloke, looks and smells like a tramp) said he knows a bloke in Worthing that is friends with the medical staff and the albion sent someone up to Manchester to give someone a medical yesterday

Palmer or Lewis on loan from City would be decent...

 

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Harry Maguire?

Imagine him playing Zerbiball!

 

[southstandandy]

I use to moan alot as to why we were making so much money selling players and spending little of it.Then I think of how vulgar City, Chelsea etc are and I think great, we are doing it the old fashioned way.I;m not against one or two big spends but I don't want us to go crazy and especially for a dud like Sancho.

I know what you mean, but for the first 3 years in the Prem we barely sold a sausage as no wanted players from a struggling team, so we were in those times spending far more on incomings than outgoings.

It's nice now that when we are now selling some players, the fees generated are in the most part pretty substantial and allow us to reinvest at a more sensible level, and helping balance the books and even make some profit.

 

[Milano]

Sancho on loan with Utd paying 80% of his wages would be interesting. We need a bigger squad for 23/24 and you don’t become shit overnight (it takes a year or two at Utd to do that!) he looked a fantastic prospect at Dortmund and I’d back RDZ to turn him around, and ‘maybe’ that’s what Utd think too.
My only concern would be them wanting ‘something’ other than a loan fee in return……
Totally depends if they think he has a long term future there or not.
No way are Villa paying that fee or those wages. Newcastle maybe.

 

[Psychobilly freakout]

Sancho on loan with Utd paying 80% of his wages would be interesting. We need a bigger squad for 23/24 and you don’t become shit overnight (it takes a year or two at Utd to do that!) he looked a fantastic prospect at Dortmund and I’d back RDZ to turn him around, and ‘maybe’ that’s what Utd think too.
My only concern would be them wanting ‘something’ other than a loan fee in return……
Totally depends if they think he has a long term future there or not.
No way are Villa paying that fee or those wages. Newcastle maybe.

Newcastle are now a strong rival to United, I can see them loaning him to us.

 

[jcdenton08]

Medicals are held down here, because the physio staff, club doctor etc are familiar with our equipment and calibration thereof. I know this as fact. This Sancho gag is being taken far too seriously by some.

 

[Mr Bridger]

Please do not shoot the messenger...

Ollie the local window cleaner in and around Lancing (short bloke, looks and smells like a tramp) said he knows a bloke in Worthing that is friends with the medical staff and the albion sent someone up to Manchester to give someone a medical yesterday

It’s Bez isn’t it.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Sancho on loan with Utd paying 80% of his wages would be interesting. We need a bigger squad for 23/24 and you don’t become shit overnight (it takes a year or two at Utd to do that!) he looked a fantastic prospect at Dortmund and I’d back RDZ to turn him around, and ‘maybe’ that’s what Utd think too.
My only concern would be them wanting ‘something’ other than a loan fee in return……
Totally depends if they think he has a long term future there or not.
No way are Villa paying that fee or those wages. Newcastle maybe.

With Manure entering the race for Caicedo, this loan plan looks a little more realistic. We’d never be able to pay his salary permanently so Manure would need to fund the bulk of it as you say but perhaps RDZ could do for Sancho what Moyes did for Lingard. If he repeats his Dortmund form, you have to think we’d have a very good season if we borrowed him.