[Misc] Sewage in the sea

[fly high]

thing is the recent legislation did increase the standards, bringing in requirement to reduce storm water overflows. the amendment mentioned want to make it zero overflow, with immediate effect. not very practical, a cynic might say was put forward to be voted down. would argue the new legislation doesnt go far enough, questions over whether enforcment works, just saying you're naughty and a fine for sewage discharge doesnt actually stop them. i like the idea of executives swimming in areas, not sure can work that in to law.

what i cant quite understand is why the storm water goes into sewage in the first place, thought was supposed to go off into waterways seperately. seems problem has been built into the system, very difficult to undo if so.

The problem is built in in some areas. Early drainage systems were combined with foul & storm in the same pipes, which then just went straight into the sea or rivers.

 

[AmexRuislip]

Isn't there a song about this

Good old sewage by the sea...
Good old sewage by the sea....
Good old sewage by the sea....

 

[WATFORD zero]

In 2020 265 Tory MPs voted down an amendment to the environment bill that would have legally obliged water companies not to pump sewage into waterways. Perhaps, we could vote out these shysters that care more about shareholder profits than the society they are supposed to govern.

Failing that, maybe we could join a pan-European group of countries and could set out clear rules on the treatment of waste water, That way, we wouldn't be completely beholden to the self-serving politicians that the great British public vote for. We could call it the Union of European countries or something.

Great idea but wouldn't there have to be a referendum?
That would be hijacked again!

But you campaigned for Johnson's vision, voted for Johnson's vision and got Johnson's vision. So how do you believe it was hijacked again ?

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Having swam off Seaford 3 times last week and also today, twice swallowing some seawater, I can report no ill effects, and no sign of any chocolate logs (Thames Trout) in the briny.

 

[Bakero]

Having swam off Seaford 3 times last week and also today, twice swallowing some seawater, I can report no ill effects, and no sign of any chocolate logs (Thames Trout) in the briny.

You're a braver man than me.

Looking forward to returning to this tomorrow:

 

[Dunk&Disorderly]

We can't get the chemicals to treat the raw sewage anymore because of the lorry driver issue. Another symptom of Brexit.

 

[beorhthelm]

We can't get the chemicals to treat the raw sewage anymore because of the lorry driver issue. Another symptom of Brexit.

thats last years story.

 

[Mackenzie]

Sewage in the sea
That is what we are
No one in between
How can we be wrong?
Sail away with me
To another world
And we rely on each other, ah ha
From one lover to another, ah ha

 

[Pevenseagull]

So what's the situation on batheing in Brighton and Hove? No seriously! Is the problem just further out in East Sussex and Bognor way or is it here as well? Weather is going to get better so ideally would like a swim. What's the advice?

Check

Sas.org.uk/map/

 

[bobby baxter]

I am always shocked reading the local press (Argus) comments section, when they run a cycle lane story the amount of anger and vitriol these stories generate are way off the scale.

When a story of raw sewage being deposited in the sea or our rivers is published, it passes with very little comment, almost a shrug of the shoulders in fact.

 

[WATFORD zero]

thats last years story.

Do you really think that ?

You don't think it is going to carry having a huge effect on our surging Inflation, plummeting GDP, the Northern Ireland situation and the breaking of International laws, recruitment of carers, fruit pickers, the hospitality industry, the implementation of border controls, the fishing industry, the farming industry, British exporters etc etc, year after year after year, after year

 

[portlock seagull]

The campaign to clean our waterways and sea has been ongoing all my life at least. Just like climate change, nothing meaningful will ever come of it because too much money involved dealing with ‘social costs’ that reduces profits. Profit is what counts the most. Public health is far behind in that respect and always will be.

Stop campaigning and enjoy your local leisure centre before it closes is probably the best advice!

 

[portlock seagull]

I am always shocked reading the local press (Argus) comments section, when they run a cycle lane story the amount of anger and vitriol these stories generate are way off the scale.

When a story of raw sewage being deposited in the sea or our rivers is published, it passes with very little comment, almost a shrug of the shoulders in fact.

Probably because only a tiny percent of people swim in the sea whilst millions get stuck behind SELFISH CYCLISTS!

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Caulfield very much falls into that category. Cloned with Nadine Dorries. As things stand she will hopefully be history next GE. Only gets elected due to the perverse boundaries of her constituency. Were it only Lewes and immediate surrounds, she'd have no chance. The rural vote gets her over the line.

Her majority dropped from 5K to just 2K from 2015-2019. Many are fed up with her, and James MacCleary is a very good councillor. He will stand as the next LibDem candidate.

The amendment last October from the House of Lords was put forward by the Duke of Wellington, but the Tories voted against it.

22 Conservative MPs did have a crisis of conscience and voted for the amendment.
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...s-tory-mps-to-defend-decision-on-social-media

 

[portlock seagull]

Having swam off Seaford 3 times last week and also today, twice swallowing some seawater, I can report no ill effects, and no sign of any chocolate logs (Thames Trout) in the briny.

Lots people in Thames near me. Local newspaper took photos of toilet paper and turds floating downstream from the sewage works recently. You couldn’t pay be enough to paddle board or “wild” swim in our rivers and lakes. David Walliams famously got really ill when he did his charity Thames swim.

All this before the cows come down for a paddle and a piss!

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The campaign to clean our waterways and sea has been ongoing all my life at least. Just like climate change, nothing meaningful will ever come of it because too much money involved dealing with ‘social costs’ that reduces profits. Profit is what counts the most. Public health is far behind in that respect and always will be.

Stop campaigning and enjoy your local leisure centre before it closes is probably the best advice!

At one stage many south coast beaches had blue flags which denoted they were clean and up to standard. Shrug your shoulders if you don't care, but don't say it didn't have any effect, because it did.

Things started sliding again when the Tories got in, and the EU took Britain to court in 2012. Another reason why the Tories wanted us out.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-eu-court-wastewater-idUKBRE89H0R320121018

The chemicals for treating sewage come from the Netherlands which is now more difficult. Coupled with lack of investment in repairing sewers etc but paying out £Billions in dividends, make a perfect shitstorm.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Lots people in Thames near me. Local newspaper took photos of toilet paper and turds floating downstream from the sewage works recently. You couldn’t pay be enough to paddle board or “wild” swim in our rivers and lakes. David Walliams famously got really ill when he did his charity Thames swim.

All this before the cows come down for a paddle and a piss!

Don't forget the traces of polio in the river.


Cholera will follow soon.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Having swam off Seaford 3 times last week and also today, twice swallowing some seawater, I can report no ill effects, and no sign of any chocolate logs (Thames Trout) in the briny.

https://www.facebook.com/search/top?q=sewage seaford

 

[A1X]

It’s almost like flogging vital national infrastructure to private companies more focused on profit margins than ensuring the infrastructure is maintained to a good standard was a bad idea.

Who could have seen this coming apart from everyone who’s ever heard of Railtrack?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

So what's the situation on batheing in Brighton and Hove? No seriously! Is the problem just further out in East Sussex and Bognor way or is it here as well? Weather is going to get better so ideally would like a swim. What's the advice?

My advice is you’d need your head testing to go in the sea. Go to a pool if you want a swim.

“ Sussex has been particularly badly hit by sewage pollution, with new figures showing that every single beach between Brighton and Hastings has been marred by waste. Bexhill and Normans Bay beaches remain closed after raw sewage was pumped into the sea. A spokesperson for Southern Water said the firm was “deeply sorry” and understood “the distress this causes”.
However, the situation could be worse than the figures show: at Seaford, in Sussex, the sewage monitor was only working a third of the time.”