[Albion] Dan Ashworth joins Newcastle

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Live by the sea

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We wanted £5m according to the athletic , I doubt we dropped much on that price as Newcastle desperate to get him in pre season . I’m guessing 4 and a quarter , every little bit helps as they say .
 








Blue Valkyrie

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I can't help wondering if they tried to poach Paul "new contract" Barber as well.

I guess we'll never know.
 




Springal

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Wouldn’t that mean the weird alien looking woman would be redundant?

She’s not CEO - she’s ‘co-owner’ but has taken CEO role until they find a new one since Lee Charnley went in January
 




Frankie

Put him in the curry
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There's the door,if it's locked just slither under it.

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Lever

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There are probably people on this site who are better equipped than I am to answer my questions. I really don't know the answers; maybe only time will tell ....

What specific positive difference did Dan Ashworth make for Brighton and Hove Albion while he was with us?

How much difference will he make to our/Newcastle's prospects?

Is Premier League football competition terminally reduced to rich clubs with seemingly infinite spending power (and dubious ownership)?
 




Bold Seagull

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Mar 18, 2010
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There are probably people on this site who are better equipped than I am to answer my questions. I really don't know the answers; maybe only time will tell ....

What specific positive difference did Dan Ashworth make for Brighton and Hove Albion while he was with us?

How much difference will he make to our/Newcastle's prospects?

Is Premier League football competition terminally reduced to rich clubs with seemingly infinite spending power (and dubious ownership)?

I can't help but think DA was a crucial part of a team approach to the way GP is running the first team, and TB running the club generally. I'm not saying the dip we had was a direct result of DA resigning, but I don't think it helped, and perhaps left a few people, whether coaches and staff or players without someone perhaps they regularly spoke to or confided in outside their first team bubble.

He probably was a vital cog between the business side of things with PB and TB, and the football side of things. The evidence would appear to be a much more considered approach to transfers throughout the club whether development, first team or womens. Whether relatively unknown finds like Cucurella, to landing Welbeck and revitalising his career, or grabbing Lamptey for peanuts - we seem to have left the days of Locadia and Jahanbakhsh behind us...for now.

What difference could he make to Newcastle? – look at MU's transfer business without a sensible executive or clear plan. You can spend more than any other club in Europe and finish on your lowest points total for 30 years. The difference he can make is that with £100m's to spend, he probably gets it spent wisely more often than not, starts to tie together all parts of the club, and has the authority to make a difference.
 


Seasider78

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Nov 14, 2004
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I can't help but think DA was a crucial part of a team approach to the way GP is running the first team, and TB running the club generally. I'm not saying the dip we had was a direct result of DA resigning, but I don't think it helped, and perhaps left a few people, whether coaches and staff or players without someone perhaps they regularly spoke to or confided in outside their first team bubble.

He probably was a vital cog between the business side of things with PB and TB, and the football side of things. The evidence would appear to be a much more considered approach to transfers throughout the club whether development, first team or womens. Whether relatively unknown finds like Cucurella, to landing Welbeck and revitalising his career, or grabbing Lamptey for peanuts - we seem to have left the days of Locadia and Jahanbakhsh behind us...for now.

What difference could he make to Newcastle? – look at MU's transfer business without a sensible executive or clear plan. You can spend more than any other club in Europe and finish on your lowest points total for 30 years. The difference he can make is that with £100m's to spend, he probably gets it spent wisely more often than not, starts to tie together all parts of the club, and has the authority to make a difference.

A lot is made of the signings and Ali J and Locadia rightly called out as duds but let’s not forget Bissouma, White and Sanchez all pre-date Ashworth so it’s not about to all come crashing down around us.
 


Lever

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Feb 6, 2019
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I can't help but think DA was a crucial part of a team approach to the way GP is running the first team, and TB running the club generally. I'm not saying the dip we had was a direct result of DA resigning, but I don't think it helped, and perhaps left a few people, whether coaches and staff or players without someone perhaps they regularly spoke to or confided in outside their first team bubble.

He probably was a vital cog between the business side of things with PB and TB, and the football side of things. The evidence would appear to be a much more considered approach to transfers throughout the club whether development, first team or womens. Whether relatively unknown finds like Cucurella, to landing Welbeck and revitalising his career, or grabbing Lamptey for peanuts - we seem to have left the days of Locadia and Jahanbakhsh behind us...for now.

What difference could he make to Newcastle? – look at MU's transfer business without a sensible executive or clear plan. You can spend more than any other club in Europe and finish on your lowest points total for 30 years. The difference he can make is that with £100m's to spend, he probably gets it spent wisely more often than not, starts to tie together all parts of the club, and has the authority to make a difference.

Thank you for your clear response; do you think Weir can do the job just as well?
 




Bold Seagull

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Mar 18, 2010
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A lot is made of the signings and Ali J and Locadia rightly called out as duds but let’s not forget Bissouma, White and Sanchez all pre-date Ashworth so it’s not about to all come crashing down around us.

No, plenty of other talented people about, it may well be the hard work from DA is done, club structures, ways of decision making etc. are all in place, and basically you can carry on without that same person and do continue the success.

While we see our club as perhaps the same with steady improvement, I think in football terms, the club's reputation has grown exponentially. It is now a place to be if you want to advance your career, on and off the pitch. This is now a club on the radar of talent all over the world - take Mac Allister, struggled at first, but the club worked with him, he's improved and now looks a great player at PL level. Exciting times I think.
 


Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
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Hove
Thank you for your clear response; do you think Weir can do the job just as well?

If I'm honest I have no idea. But as per response above to Seasider78, if all the structures and ways of doing things successfully are in place, I see no reason another person cannot come in and improve on what DA started. Time will tell I guess.
 




Seasider78

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Nov 14, 2004
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No, plenty of other talented people about, it may well be the hard work from DA is done, club structures, ways of decision making etc. are all in place, and basically you can carry on without that same person and do continue the success.

While we see our club as perhaps the same with steady improvement, I think in football terms, the club's reputation has grown exponentially. It is now a place to be if you want to advance your career, on and off the pitch. This is now a club on the radar of talent all over the world - take Mac Allister, struggled at first, but the club worked with him, he's improved and now looks a great player at PL level. Exciting times I think.

Agree Tony and Paul have got this club organised brilliantly and departures on and off the pitch seem to be well mitigated with succession plans for all playing and non playing staff.

We really are so lucky to have such a well ran club so it’s no wonder the vultures are circling for a slice of the action.

Always liked Weir as well and he is a big part of the player pathways work and will no doubt have learnt a lot from Ashworth in his time as well.
 




Barnet Seagull

Luxury Player
Jul 14, 2003
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Falmer, soon...
My understanding is that Ashworth came in and set the direction and tone, establishing the processes, governance and personnel involved in how football works at Brighton across all teams.
Once you've established those processes and structures, it can take years to bed in.
Ashworth it seems was the glue around all the staff. Losing him would've been impactful as a supporting and guiding hand has gone.
The positive is that when anyone leaves, there are opportunities for growth and for those that have been on the journey to have seen what works and what doesn't. In addition, the meticulous succession planning has to happen at all levels of the club, so they will have been prepared.
Yes, it's a loss but if he's as good as they say he is and those stepping up are good too, you wouldn't expect any long term damage and his legacy will live on
 




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